Burnout not Required with Jason Cochran, Co-founder of Dulead

We’ve taken huge strides to de-stigamtize mental health issues as a society, and yet business leaders still feel excessive pressure to pretend they are immune to such problems.

Jason Cochran is a psychologist and the Co-founder of Dulead, a leadership development system. As a mental health professional and a leader in his own right, Jason knows how much your mental health can impact both your own work and the people you’re trying to lead.

In this episode, Jason reminds us that the examples set by those in positions of power speak volumes, so prioritizing and being open about mental health has to start at the top. Along the way, you’ll learn how to provide your team the support they need to overcome challenges and how it will help you attract, grow, and retain the best talent out there.


Show Notes

Transcript of the episode

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In this episode you’ll learn:

  • Work can be more than a paycheck, it can drive positive change.

  • Leaders have to set an example and prioritize mental health.

  • There’s no perfect workplace but a well-rounded culture can make all the difference.

Things to listen for:

[01:25] What led Jason to pursue a career in psychology

[05:11] Helping others find purpose in their work

[10:13] Shocking burnout stats

[13:57] Drivers behind mental health stigmas

[16:59] Recognizing your “cow paths”

[19:43] Keeping track of mental health markers

[21:45] Seeking help rather than trying to ‘push through’ problems

[26:29] Having a constellation of people to help you see your blind spots

[28:54] Actions leaders can take to create psychologically safe environments

[34:42] Individual and organizational mental health responsibilities

[40:22] Tim’s Take